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Hello to all. 

It has been a long time since the old Sportingnews format changed for the worse.  I have been suffering since.  While I have found other groups to mingle with for NHL talk.  I have yet to be satisfied when it comes to NBA talk.  This was a big part of deciding to join this little corner of the web.  I used to go by the moniker josh-wa over at SN.  I had many a great debate/war of words with the likes of Mr,Cutlass, vouve and many others... haven't seen nor heard from them in ages.  I am on MacApp but rarely stop in anymore (great site, with great people over there). 

I am a Toronto Maple Leaf and Toronto Raptor fan.  Hockey and Basketball are my passion.  I have recently started playing Fantasy Baseball and am looking forward to starting Fantasy NFL this year as well.  Back in my youth I was a Bills fan and a Tigers fan.   I will probably chime in on those sports more as a get reacquainted with both leagues.

But enough about me!  I am not an experienced blogger so I will keep this short.  I look forward to many a good convo.  Cheers!

Musings From The Hoodwood 7-24
Category: Daily Blog 2.0
Tags: MLB NBA PGA MMA NCAA Football
 
 
 
Santo makes it in...thats deserving of a heel click...
 
 
 
 
Greetings from the Hoodwood, where the locals are really getting tired of having to lower their flags for senseless tragedies. We mourn the loss of the Aurora shooting, and send our love and condolences.
 
Leading Off: Stunning finish at the Open
Im not a big golf fan, if none of my three favorite golfers aren’t in the running. My favorite golfers are named Tiger, Bubba and Boo Im usually not paying that much attention. It just happened that I was having lunch with the Lady Bandit yesterday and the Open Championship at Royal Lytham was on. Adam Scott was leading and was about to putt for par on the 15th, Lady Bandit was struck by the broomstick length putter that the Aussie was using. Its supposed to help steady his putting, I remarked. Scott then proceeded to miss the par putt. We watched as Scott then proceeded to miss par putts on 16 and on 17 as well.
“I know he (Scott) isn’t about to give this away like Van De Velde did in ’99.” I said aloud, then regaling her about the sickening collapse of the Frenchman at the final hole at Carnoustie. Van De Velde needed a double bogey 6 to be the first Frenchman since 1907 to win the Claret Jug, he shot a 7 and had to make a tough putt to salvage that and force a playoff with Justin Leonard and Paul Lawrie which he lost to Lawrie. Surely, Scott wouldn’t do that would he???
Nope, he wasted his huge lead by the 17th hole and now was needing a par on the 18th to force a playoff with Ernie Els who had finished ahead of him and was waiting outside the clubhouse having finished at -7. After finding a pot bunker on his first shot and having to shoot sideways to get out, Scott dropped a stunning 3rd shot to within 7 feet of the pin. Scott had weebled and wobbled but he wouldn’t fall down now would he? He lined the putt up with his belly putter and as soon as he struck I said aloud “He gaffled it!” He left the ball to the left of the cup and the Claret Jug that seemed to be a foregone conclusion was gone. The collapse was such a stunning turn of events many patrons in the restaurant gasped aloud. Scott sank to his knees in shock and disbelief and Els was the benefactor and the 2012 Open winner.
For his part, Scott was forthright and classy in defeat, just as Els consoled him was classy in his victory ten years and a day since winning the Open at Muirfield. One has to wonder can Scott come back from yet another stunning major loss. Remember he watched as another South African Charl Schwartzel stormed down the back nine at Augusta last year to win his first major.
 
Ichiro: IN PINSTRIPES!!!
Its just not fair, it really isn’t. I make no bones about my dislike for the Yankees. I hate that MLB and ESPN seem to kowtow to them all the time. But now the Mariners have made themselves a trading partner for the Yankees giving the incomparable Ichiro to the Yankees for a bag of bean. It was actually two minor leaguers but it might have well been. The hitting sensation from Japan burst on to the scene in 2001 and has been a machine, having 12 straight 200 hit seasons to start his career and over 2500 in his MLB career the right fielder is a beast. To think he will be sporting pinstripes makes this scribe ill. But it’s a smart and needed move by the Bombers who just lost Brett Gardner to a season ending elbow injury and could use Ichiro’s lithe bat at the top of the order with Derek Jeter. Ichiro will simply switch clubhouses as the Yankees are in Seattle and leave with his new team. Knowing the Mariners are deep in a rebuilding mode, Ichiro requested a trade, he is 38 but shows no signs of slowing down though he did play 8 years in Japan before coming to America. He might very well be the 2nd player to get his 3000th hit in a Yankee uniform. I still don’t think its right, I might have to go get Sully and Mo off that ledge in a bit…
 
 
"Why dont they like me????" Wishy-Washy players tend to annoy folks, Dwight
 
 
NBA: The trials and tribulations of Dwight Howard
I really don’t feel sorry for Dwight Howard. He has been immeasurably blessed with basketball talent that I cant even fathom and couldn’t duplicate even on a video game. He was pegged as a NBA superstar before he got out of high school. I have the issue of Slam Magazine that touted him among 6 players that they saw as destined for greatness. The players that are on the cover with Howard, Josh Smith and Al Jefferson who have had a solid serviceable NBA careers. Shaun Livingston, Marvin Williams have been journeymen if not outright busts and Bassy Telfair??? Ill keep myself from laughing. Howard has been the outright star of that 2004 class. The versatile center has averaged 18.4 points a game in his career and at 26 is young enough to build a team around. Howard now may go to the Lakers, but the Magic still hold the cards and will not be bullied or browbeat into a rash deal. Howard for his part has said very little but the pro basketball world is getting tired of the dance. Most of the free agents have landed in new spots, Howard isn’t a free agent and theoretically cant pick where he wants to play this coming season but everyone knows that he will be a free agent at next seasons end and most teams aren’t willing to trade for a player that has openly stated that he would have no intention of staying long term. Unless that team is Brooklyn, but the Nets have seemed to have cooled their interest in him, so there he is and the whole basketball universe waits…
If Howard does get traded for Andrew Bynum, it makes the Lakers a very dangerous team. With Steve Nash running the point, Kobe would have to share his shots but that could be worked out very nicely. Keep Paul Gasol and add the interesting Antawn Jamison off the bench and the Lakers suddenly give the Thunder AND the Heat something to worry about.
I did get into a debate if Howard is now the NBA’s most despised player, replacing Lebron James. I think Howard has earned that moniker, while he has immense talent he tends to try to want to please everyone. He then waffles and comes off as selfish and immature. He has already put his foot in his mouth a few times with the whole Stan Van Gundy feud and his holding the Magic hostage with his decision on staying or going, signing the option year then publicly balking at staying. Howard doesn’t deserve to decide where he goes.
 
NCAA: The Hammer comes down in Happy Valley
Penn State knew that they were going to get it and good, now knowing that former coach Joe Paterno not only knew about the sick shit that Sandusky was doing but worked hard to cover it up and deflect investigations. The cover up went all the way up to people of high influence in Penn State and the fact that it and it was know about and lied about was proof positive that Penn State got what it deserved. People was screaming “Death Penalty, Death Penalty” The loss of scholoarships, postseason bowl ban and the stigma of this scandal will be enough penalty. Don’t think that the other 11 Big 10 coaches are falling all over themselves to not only pluck fruit from a ripe Penn State tree of talent, but keep recruits who were once leaning toward Happy Valley from going there. The loss of 60 schloaraships over a three year period will hammer the Nittany Lions as they wont have the feared depth that has made them a resident bully in Big Ten football.since they join nearly 20 years ago.
Many people said that the punishment was too light, others said to harsh, Others have opined that NCAA president Mark Emmert is wielding too much power. He was quick to point out that given the special circumstances surrounding the Penn State issues, he was granted this authority to dole out this punishment and I think that it was just. I would hope that the children and young men that were harmed by the abuse as well as the players that will have to suffer the punishment for the failings of so many supposed great and admirable individuals will be able to properly heal and move on. They are the ones that have been truly hurt here lets never lose sight of that fact.
 
PHAT DAP/HEAD SLAP
Phat Daps
I showed last week a 5 second knockout by Ryan Jimmo does her almost one better knocking out Anthony Perosh with a hammer right.
One punch put him to the canvas. 7 seconds and it was done. Perosh looked like he had tilt signs flashing in his eyes.
Jimmo is a certified thunder puncher, but dude you got to stop with the robot dance…
Dap to the MLB class of 2012. Barry Larkin was always a favorite of mine, he made the shortstop position sparkle with plays that living in Cincinnati became almost routine and expected.
Ron Santo was the closest thing to a Cub lifer you could have asked for. Yeah, that clicking of the heels was goofy but he was a genuine player and was so so overdue for the honor, which makes his posthumous entry even sadder but his widow was super classy in the induction speech. The Chicago Cubs players yesterday honored Santo’s induction by taking the field Sunday in St. Louis by clicking their heels.
 
Head Slaps
To Luis Scola of the Argentinean basketball team, trying to pick a fight with Kevin Durant and LeBron James during their exhibition loss to the USA basketball team. Scola took offense to a hard but clean foul during their matchup and looked like he was ready to brawl. I hope the American team files this one away and during the Olympic games lays a smack down on a decent but not overly scary Argentine squad.
 
Also to Brent Musburger and Trevor Mattich, otherwise credible and astute college football broadcasters. Both were a bit vocal in their criticism of the NCAA for saying that they punished Penn State too much. I think that both really need to look at the fact that the NCAA was basing their punishment on the report that Penn State asked for and validated. The punishment was justified and both really need to be advocating the kids that were the victims. Yes there is collateral damage but their carping was just not cool.
 
Finally the answer to where the pics of the Mancave are, the Mancave aint finished yet...I might do a cribs style video on it here soon. There are still a couple things that need to be done to it...so stay tuned
Until Next Post Fellow Sports Fans!
Talking Sports
Category: Daily Blog 2.0
Tags: MLB NCAA NFL NBA

Hey Gabbers Happy Thursday

 

We have lots of exciting baseball with 11 teams in the American League above 500. 6 teams within a game of each other for a possible second wild card birth. The nice thing it will bring some excitement to the second half and the trade deadline. Unfortunately there will be far more buyers than sellers. The battle for guys like Matt Garza of the Cubs will be huge.

Brett Lillibridge

Brent Lillibridge

Kevin Youklis is back at Fenway this week and he has been excellent. I think the trade of him going to the White Sox and in a little more laid back atmosphere has done the guy a world of good. unfortunately for the Red Sox Will Middlebrooks has slumped and spent some time on the DL since the trade. I still think it was good trade. The funny part is  the Red Sox designated Brent Lilibridge for assignment to make room for Carl Crawford. Some rumors say he may end up back with the White Sox. That would be funny.

 

Jeremy Lind help with this one. The Rockets cut the guy . The knicks pick him up and he is good for 25 games or so filling in for Carmelo Anthony and then the Rockets offer him 3 years for 25 million. The Knicks say no thanks were not going to match it. I’m sorry I’m all for get as much as you get if someone is willing to pay tou. That is very much the case here. The Rockets took the hype and overpaid. Anyway good for JeremyI think we all look at these guys and when they have a crappy year we go right to the money they are making. Why blame them if somebody is willing to pay, I’ll take what I can get and so would you. We should blame the owners. I will use JD Drew who the Red Sox paid some huge money to and anytime the guy slumped the first thing out ofg Red Sox fans mouthes were he is making all that money. Yeah, because they were willing to pay him. I’m just as guilty as anybody but seriously these guys take what they can get in most cases.

So Football camps are opening up everywhere over the next few weeks . So it’s time to gear up and get ready. My favorite part of training camp is always to see what guys around the league try to get out of it. Injuries, contracts and bad attitudes just bless these camps over and over. Seriously camp is a lot easir under the new CBA. They are user friendly and the coaches have actually figured out that sometimes you get more with less. It doesn’t mean it’s a picnic it just means it’s a lil easier than they were.

Dez I won’t carry anybody’s equipment Bryant gets the son of theyear award for assaulting his own mother. Somehow I’m thinking she probably was responsible for part of his success. But who am I. It will be interesting to see how the commissioner handles this one.

Somehow he maybe tougher on Dez than the NCAA will be on Penn State although I think a death penalty will be coming it makes the kids at Ohio State  trading trinkets for Tats look like kid stuff, Ditto on Reggie Bush. There are no winners in the Penn State Saga and it’s ashame that a Football first mentality scarred a bunch of kids and ruined the reputation of a fine academic institution. The penalties need to be severe and should be. It will never be right .however, maybe others will learn and hopefully it doesn’t happen again anywhere.

Musings From The Hoodwood 7-17
Category: Daily Blog 2.0
Tags: MLB NBA NCAA Football MMA

Houston? Thats a little off-Broadway ain't it? 

 

 

Greetings from the Hoodwood, where the ManCave is not quite ready to showoff just yet. Details to follow

 

Leadin' off: The chickens are coming home to roost in Happy Valley

It just makes me ill to learn of the seemingly extensive coverup that went on at Penn State. I know that the facts have been rehashed ad nauseam over the last few months and more so since the damning report put out by Louis Freeh. But the questions still begs itself, why did JoePa, a virtual bastion of supposed decency, virtue and moral character look the other way and try to cover up what had been first alleged then brought to light? What did Sandusky have that was so appealing that he would try to keep his awful actions under wraps and allow him to continue to be around children to take advantage of them? Paterno looks less like someone who didn’t know what was happeneing and more like someone that didn’t want  to know what was happening. There is a big difference. Paterno kept the mumbling bumbling act up, portraying himself as a victim of circumstance when its becoming very obvious that not only did Paterno know of the allegations that he actively worked to keep the information about that asshat’s actions secret. JoePa made his own bed and the institution that is the Pennsylvania State University is left holding the bag. JoePa covered it up, then lied about the coverup then went to his grave denying that he knew anything about it. It makes my stomach lurch just thinking about how the media sainted him. I always thought he was a bit off putting, a bully who was hiding behind the piousness of donating millions of dollars to libraries. I despised Penn State cause they were vanilla with their plain unis. When I was in high school they defeated my then favorite college team, the University of Miami in the Fiesta Bowl. The pundits sang from the mountaintops that pious JoePa had saved college football from the bad boys of Miami. Five years later as a sophomore at the University of Cincinnati, I watched in horror as Penn State destroyed my beloved Bearcats 81-0. JoePa sat with a straight face at the postgame presser and shrugged off the fact that he was letting his charges score again and again. I know he was secretly gaining a modicum of revenge for a 14-3 upset loss in 1983 when most of the players on the 1991 were still in grade school (Like I was then). Penn State has played Cincinnati twice since that 81 point rout, winning 24-20 in 1992 and 42-24 in 2005. Ive never had that love affair that the media had with Penn State, I just thought the coach was lionized too much.

Speaking of lionizing, I always wondered had JoePa blew the whistle in either 1998 when the investigation first started or in 2001 how much he would have been revered. The coach that would tolerate no funny business. But he didn’t, he kept silent, worried more about his own image that to do right by the children. JoePa failed those kids and he failed the school as a whole as well as his family and the legions of loyal fans that looked up to him. The people that trumpeted him as that bastion of good virtuous actions. He failed them all.

As much as I despise Ohio State I will root hard for the Bucks to beat the crap out of them when they go to Beaver Stadium in late October. Lets make one thing clear, I am not among the people crying for the NCAA to disband the program or give it the death penalty. I do not think that punishing the young men playing for that program who were unknowing in what had happened with their former coach. We are not talking about violations of academic or athletic rules. This is not SMU in the 80s that were paying players and was on probation repeatedly. This is not Southwestern Louisiana (Louisiana-Lafayette) who were committing academic fraud. Lets keep this in perspective. Should Penn State be punished for its coverup? Yes, the powers that be should be losing their jobs in this matter. But the players should be held blameless. I would allow any player that wishes to transfer to another school the ability to do so without losing a year. But you can be damn sure that the NCAA is going to come down hard on Penn State and the collegiate football world is recoiling as they prepare for the thunder about to be brought down. Multiple years of probation as well as scholarship restrictions will be the likely punishment here and thats what it should be.

MLB: Im not down with brown

I was reading an article on ESPN.com by Tim Krasovic about the San Diego Padres and how they should go back to the brown unis that they sported for the first 20 or so years of their existence. The unis that they wore when they upset the Cubs and the lost to the Tigers in 1984, straight ugly! Im an admitted fan of the uni watch blog which has some of the best info and historical data on uniforms that you could ever ask for or dream of. But Im sorry, keep those mustard and brown unis in the mothball closet…

MLB: Bobby V and Ozzie just cant help themselves

I was gonna keep the peace. I was going to leave the two managers I despise alone. But they manage to do stuff that I have to throw a crackback blast at. First lets look at the stupidest manager in baseball. Ah yes one of Hoodwood's most reviled Bobby Valentine. With the Chicago White Sox arriving for a midweek series. Did Bobby V talk about the Sox good pitching or the feared bat of slugger Adam Dunn who is quietly leading the AL in homers with 28 as of Monday? No! Bobby V takes potshots at Kevin Youkilis the former longtime Red Sox 3rd baseman, railing on how he didnt play hard and that he wasnt liked much by the other Red Sox players. Bobby V likes to play that us against them mentality and always keeps his players on edge. He preens for the media and by and large they eat his shtick up. Me, I think hes a buffoon. Youk for his part was the classy Bearcat that he always has been, trying to put a damper on the supposed tiff between he and Valentine. Guillen is another manager despised in Hoodwood, he tried to call out young phenom Bryce Harper of the Nationals on Sunday for having too much pine tar on his bat. What the fuck? Is this 1983? Guillen is far from a Billy Martin (may he rest) and Bryce Harper is a far cry from George Brett (yet) but Ozzie's constant chirping and profanity laced harangue of Harper was over the line. So much so that the normal super laid back Nats skipper Davey Johnson took exception. Calling Guillen's tactics nothing short of bullying, Johnson was quick to chide the Marlins manager for poor sportsmanship. Not like the usually profane Guillen ever really had any class to begin with... I hope Bryce Harper starts whaling the shit out of the ball when he plays the Marlins. 

Lin Gets Paid!

Linsanity will be playing way off Broadway. The point guard whos rise to stardom was meteoritic as it was shocking will be signing with the Houston Rockets. Depending on who you ask, Lin is either greedy or smart or cashing in his chips at the right time. Everyone now knows the story of the first player of Taiwanese heritage to play big time minutes in the NBA. He went from emergency player who made good on his one shot at playing on a ten day contract to a media phenom who outgunned Kobe Bryant. Lin was signed to a 3 year $25 million offer sheet by the Rockets, the problem with the contract that it was backloaded in such a way that it would put the Knicks way way over the salary cap and at a 175% penalty The Knicks would be paying 1.75 for every dollar over the salary cap a huge price to pay for Lin who has yet to prove himself over a long 82 game schedule. So the Knicks look as if they will pass on Lin, much to the delight of at least one former teammate. Olympian Carmelo Anthony called the contract ridiculous and always seemed to be rather cool to the prospect of sharing the points (and spotlight) with Lin. Now Lin will be the focal point of an otherwise nondescript Rocket squad and will be expected to carry the load, score big points and be the first big name in Houston since Yao Ming.

Dream Team vs Olympians: Is it even a ballgame?

I remember when the concept of NBA players playing in the Olympics was first floated. Me and my high school buddies waxed romantic on a “Dream Team” Magic, Bird, Jordan all on the same squad, It would be no contest, let Russia or Spain or Brazil or any punk ass country get on the same court with that squad. They would get a supreme ass-kicking. The team was formed and was very much a Dream Team. They won all 8 games in the Olympics by an average of 32.2 points. Coach Chuck Daly never called a timeout and the team trailed one time in the whole competition. That team has 11 Hall of Famers Every player on that squad except of course Christian Laettner was a pro legend. 20 years later, the question was posed to Olympic basketball player Kobe Bryant who would win a matchup between the current team. (I wont use dream team, with this squad because there was only one.) and the 92 squad of legends. Kobe wisely danced around the question but hinted that it would be a good game and that the current Olympic squad could beat the Dream Team... Let me tell you what it would be...

It would be another ass kicking  supreme. The 92 team while not as athletic as its modern day counterparts make up for it in cunning, game and talent.  Sure MJ and Kobe would have at least one game where they would have a duel. But I'm still trying to figure how Tyson Chandler would stop or even slow down Patrick Ewing or David Robinson both players playing at the top of their game. I would have a chortle watching Karl Malone pound on the wisp thin Anthony Davis. Sure Russell Westbrook would repeatedly abuse John Stockton but Chris Mullin would be bombing repeatedly from the outside. Pippen was just coming into his won as a player and of course Magic was so versatile. In a best of 7, I have the real dream team in 5, 6 at the most. People forget that aside from Bird at 35 and Magic a year removed from his first retirement at 33 the majority of the Dream Team were in their late 20s. I would only put Kobe, LeBron and Kevin Durant on this team but would still have a hard time figuring the two I would replace. (You know Laettner didnt even deserve to be in the same gym much less same team) This Olympic squad while good might not have been able to beat some of the warmup NBA teams that the Dream Team faced in 92...lets just stop this sllliness. Ill root hard for this years squad and still am very confident that they will bring home the gold...again. But comparing them with one of the best squads of all time, is just stupid...

Update on the Mancave

I know I promised pics of the Mancave at the new crib but its still being worked on. I promise I will show pics of the home of Black Bandit Productions and Enterprises as well as pics of where the Musings will be originating from. Im still installing the electronics and the refrigerator is still on order, but I will have the pics and details to show off soon!

 

PHAT DAP/HEAD SLAP

Phat Dap

Phat to a mind blowing high speed knockout by Veronica Rothenhausler who knocked out Ashlee Evans-Smith in an amateur MMA fight. Take a look-see.

 

Damn, it took me longer to write this sentence than it took Evans-Smith to get knocked cold. The scary thing is that its Rothenhausler’s second five second knockout in as many fights…

Head Slap

The blue Smurf turf in Boise holds a special place in my heart. It is where my beloved Bearcats won their first bowl game in over 40 years over Utah State. The unique turf is an eye catcher and a signature of the Boise State Broncos. But Lindenwood University-Belleville an NAIA school in Illinois that striped its field red and grey

 

…That just hurts the eyes….OUCH!

Thats it for this week...football is coming soon!

Until Next Post Fellow Sports Fans!

Five Minute Frags - Remembering the Good or Bad
Category: FEATURED
Tags: MLB NBA Ray Allen Johnny Damon Jonathan Papelbon

Living in Vermont, I do not get much opportunity to listen to Sports Talk Radio. For the most part, we are exposed to a choice between Country, Top 40, Easy Listening, or NPR.

Yeah, you envy me a lot don’t you?

Anyway, because I was tasked with spending most of my day in the car today, driving from Vermont to Rhode Island and back in the span of my normal workday, I had ample opportunity to listen to Sports Talk Radio today; WEEI in particular. And of all the days to do so, with the unveiling of the Freeh Report on the Sandusky cover-up at Penn State, today was a great day to do so. Needless to say, I heard a good 6 hours of debate and comments about statue removal, library name changes, death penalties for the Penn State football program, and other fit penalties for the school and those involved, up to an including digging Joe up and defecating the corpse.

And while I could easily populate this post with 1000 words of my own on the subject and my feelings toward the men involved, I feel it would be better served by more gifted ranters (like Beeze or B.o.B) that would do it much more justice with the words that truly need to be printed on such a matter.

Instead, I am going to discuss an interesting topic that came up as sort of a side bar in the conversation. And I promised I’ll still be tying it into baseball.

By now, there has been much conversation in regards to Ray Allen and his choice to spurn more money from the Celtics and instead jump ship, signing with the enemy Miami Heat. The talking heads were debating whether or not Celtics fans should boo Allen when he returns to The Garden as a member of the Heat.

Both sides presented solid cases, with one stating that they shouldn’t, due to the years of professional service that Allen gave the Celtics. Regardless of where he went, he gave the Celtics 5 years of the highest professionalism, including a championship.

The other said they should. The reasons behind this were not simply because he joined the Heat in order to win another championship rather than try to push the Celtics over the hump one last time. No, they had to do more with the fact that Allen fed the team lines like he felt he was disrespected by trade rumors the season prior, that he had issues playing with Rajon Rondo, and my personal favorite, that he could play golf year-round in Miami.

Now, as a baseball fan and the Red Sox in particular, I’ve been presented with a few of these situations in the past several years.

Let’s start with Johnny Damon. Damon is constantly booed in Boston because he left for the hated Yankees for more money. But I can’t fault Damon for going to New York. He wanted to stay in Boston and gave them the chance to match New York’s offer, but the Red Sox were almost half of what the Yankees were offering. In the end, the Red Sox didn’t want Damon back and he went to the team that did. I cannot boo a player for that.

Then you have the recent case of Jonathan Papelbon. Signing with the Phillies last offseason, Papelbon didn’t jump ship to a bitter rival. However, he had begun setting the stage for his departure for years prior, saying he would string out salary arbitration from year-to-year so that when he became a free agent, he would in turn be setting the market for closers for years to come. When free agency opened last winter, Papelbon signed with the Phillies within a day. He flew the coop before Boston could even send him an offer and didn’t even consider returning to the Red Sox. Even that I can get. He obviously wasn’t happy in Boston or with the current state of the locker room, so he looked for what he thought was a better situation.

However, in parting with the team, Papelbon made comments about the team, throwing people under the bus behind him. Then he went as far as to insult the Red Sox fan base by saying the following:

"The difference, I would say, between Boston and Philadelphia, is that, you know, I think that the Boston fans are a little bit more hysterical when it comes to the game of baseball. I'd say the Philly fans, I think they tend to know the game a little bit better, being in the National League, the way the game is played."

Maybe I take that a little out of context, but to me he was insulting the fan base that made him as popular as he was. The same fan base that cheered him dancing like a buffoon with an empty Bud Light box on his head after the 2007 ALCS. To me, you boo a guy like that.

So that brings me to Allen. I’m torn there. Do you punish a guy because he couldn’t be forthright and say that he was chasing a championship with what he felt was a sure thing? Do you hold it against him that he took less money to change his situation? Or do you remember what he did for you on the court and applaud him for that?

This is where you, the readers, come into the discussion. How do you treat a player that leaves town? What if they turned coat and went to a bitter rival? Do you base it on how he went out?

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